Posted by: vickim57 | 10 August 2009

The petitions…

If you are joining us for the first time this morning, please sign the petitions:
1. 10 Downing Street, SaveVestas
2. FoE and Unite, petition Mandelson

The 10 Downing Street e-petitions site provides a fascinating snapshot of what is exercising the minds of UK citizens today. Our petition climbs steadily but the steps are steeper when you get this ‘near’ the top of the list – please promote these petitions wherever you can. Thanks.

We are in this campaign for the long haul and so there is every chance that we can get a lot of signatures. Critics can charge that petitions don’t change much and they would be right, but they are nevertheless one small tool in our toolkit – an indicator to the government of the strength of public feeling and a way to raise awareness of the issue.



  1. Protestors welcome Mandy home from his Corfu holiday . . .

  2. Dear all,

    The Vestas factory has failed in the rough and tumble of the global economy. Let it rest there in peace. I’m sorry to have to say this to all you well meaning people supporting the protest at Vestas, but you are in effect supporting a Corporate led agenda that expects the right/opportunity to invade and develop, wholesale, the remote upland areas and open countryside of the British Isles and beyond. In doing so you are saying yes to industrial road building in the ‘wilderness’, yes to quarrying and the crushing of countryside to create concrete, yes to the growth of the National Grid, and yes to the continued control of our lives by big money interests.

    Despite what the wind-turbine, spin-doctors say, multinational corporations cannot build our way out of climatic crisis. This big wind agenda is really about Profit – big companies cashing in on climate change, creating cash cows in open countryside, and deceiving people that this agenda will somehow ‘Save the Planet.’ Nothing could be further from the truth. One cannot make the cuts in energy consumption/carbon emissions by adding on more capacity.

    The addition of industrial wind powered electricity to the UK energy palette has not created cuts in fossil fuel/resource consumption as promised, it has added to it. The relatively small amounts of intermittent electricity from wind farms, merely adds to the level of energy consumption that manifested the problems of climate change in the first place. To date, big wind has effectively acted as a mask to cover the business as usual scenario, and the growth in overall energy/resource consumption.

    Erecting hideously oversized structures (green icons) in remote areas requires big factories, big finance, big machines, and big roads from manufacturer to mountaintop. It is big money led agenda, devised by businessmen, politicians and corporate-minded, career conservationists. Their agenda reduces ordinary people to tame consumerists of their ‘energy’ products and does not to enable people to help themselves.

    Potentially big wind is invasive of almost everybody’s back yard, and building wind turbines on this scale is a gross departure away from traditional values of the environmental movement such as, ‘Small is Beautiful, ’ and ‘Tread lightly on the Planet’. Tragically, the leaders of the mainstream environmental movement have nailed their colours to the masts of the new ‘green’ energy companies, and together they behave like environmental fascists labelling decent local people as antisocial NIMBYs should they question/ oppose the march of industrial wind farm developments.

    However, it is quite clear from this recession and previous recessions that there is something to hand that really does cut carbon emissions much more effectively than a corporate led construction agendas. Recession is good for the environment. The current recent recession has done more to cut energy consumption/carbon emissions than all the environmental lobbying, all the industrial renewable energy developments and Kyoto put together. Unfortunately, mainstream environmental groups largely ignore the deleterious effects of continuous economic growth, and they are afraid to seriously endorse the ecological benefits of economic recession.

    There is no doubt about it, recession is good for Planet Earth, but what is needed is a recession/contracting economy that creates opportunities for people, not as we have, cash hand outs to failing banks and businesses with the real costs being charged to the people.

    Tim Shaw, Dinefwr Green Group, c/o The Green House Shop, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire.

  3. oh dear, we’d beg to differ i think, most especially on the path by which we’d transition to a low carbon planet

    the bwanskters, corps and the career political class are doing ever so nicely thankyou very much, but dumping on the poor in both the ‘developed’ and ‘developing’ world

    we believe the struggle here has to involve workers and other victims of ‘free market’ taking control of their struggles (in a fluffy sort of way if possible)

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